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	<title>Comments on: Diigo Is A Good Idea, But Not A Good Implementation</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Davyson</title>
		<link>http://sam.davyson.com/weblog/diigo-is-a-good-idea-but-not-a-good-implementation/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Davyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie, 

[ I will write this here for the public eye, and send it you by email also so that you definately get it. ]

I admit I was not aware about that feature of the submenu. But I am not sure that it makes things better. The submenu is therefore entirely surplus. The default action could be configured in the options and then the button could just be a button nothing else (no submenu). Design I would say (as you may be able to tell from this blog) is all in simplicity. I don't need a submenu, so why have I got one? Maybe you could drop the other options. I for one don't need or see the point of them. Another point on this function you have included -- it is not normal to be able to click menu items with arrows on them. I imagine many users would make the "mistake" that I made. It probably says in your help file, but no one reads help files, your product needs to be usuable through intuition.

As for the search thing, I will make my point clearer by giving you an example. At the moment Diigo's extension does not give me the chance to pause/stop/start/shuffle the songs that are playing in iTunes/Windows Media Player. Why not? It is functionality that you may be able to offer with a right click (or of course if you use Diigo's content selection menu, you wouldn't even have to right click). Why isn't this offered? Because there is no reason to offer it. It is a completely irrelvant. What I have playing on my computer is nothing to do with my bookmarks. The same applies here. If I wanted right click search functionality, don't worry -- I'd go out and get it. There are probably countless extensions that would fit the bill. But surprisingly I do not want this feature. I have a great search set up (I use YubNub so for a Wikipedia search like you suggest I reckon I could beat you every time by typing it in my box over you navigating through menu after menu). Is there a Diigo-lite version with JUST the bookmarking in, and no surplus stuff?

The design on your website I guess is something that is personal to me. But I don't like the colours or the links. And I think the buttons are pretty ugly. It is common in Web 2.0 things to have non pressable buttons -- that is buttons that are images are do not change on pressing. But anyway I am more concerned about the interface of the extension.

I have make a Flickr set with images and comments. You can see it here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davyson/sets/72157594178046426/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie, </p>
<p>[ I will write this here for the public eye, and send it you by email also so that you definately get it. ]</p>
<p>I admit I was not aware about that feature of the submenu. But I am not sure that it makes things better. The submenu is therefore entirely surplus. The default action could be configured in the options and then the button could just be a button nothing else (no submenu). Design I would say (as you may be able to tell from this blog) is all in simplicity. I don&#8217;t need a submenu, so why have I got one? Maybe you could drop the other options. I for one don&#8217;t need or see the point of them. Another point on this function you have included &#8212; it is not normal to be able to click menu items with arrows on them. I imagine many users would make the &#8220;mistake&#8221; that I made. It probably says in your help file, but no one reads help files, your product needs to be usuable through intuition.</p>
<p>As for the search thing, I will make my point clearer by giving you an example. At the moment Diigo&#8217;s extension does not give me the chance to pause/stop/start/shuffle the songs that are playing in iTunes/Windows Media Player. Why not? It is functionality that you may be able to offer with a right click (or of course if you use Diigo&#8217;s content selection menu, you wouldn&#8217;t even have to right click). Why isn&#8217;t this offered? Because there is no reason to offer it. It is a completely irrelvant. What I have playing on my computer is nothing to do with my bookmarks. The same applies here. If I wanted right click search functionality, don&#8217;t worry &#8212; I&#8217;d go out and get it. There are probably countless extensions that would fit the bill. But surprisingly I do not want this feature. I have a great search set up (I use YubNub so for a Wikipedia search like you suggest I reckon I could beat you every time by typing it in my box over you navigating through menu after menu). Is there a Diigo-lite version with JUST the bookmarking in, and no surplus stuff?</p>
<p>The design on your website I guess is something that is personal to me. But I don&#8217;t like the colours or the links. And I think the buttons are pretty ugly. It is common in Web 2.0 things to have non pressable buttons &#8212; that is buttons that are images are do not change on pressing. But anyway I am more concerned about the interface of the extension.</p>
<p>I have make a Flickr set with images and comments. You can see it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/davyson/sets/72157594178046426/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/davyson/sets/72157594178046426/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Tsai</title>
		<link>http://sam.davyson.com/weblog/diigo-is-a-good-idea-but-not-a-good-implementation/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Tsai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,

Thanks for trying it and for the review. 

One thing you perhaps missed about Diigo's use of submenu is that you do not have to go into the submenu!  So in the screenshot above, if you just want to bookmark, then just click "diigo" since "bookmark" in the submenu is the default choice. But having the other items in the submenu allows you to do other things easily if you want to.

The same goes for search menu and submenus.  say if you see the name of some historical person and want to look it up at wikipedia. According to your current practice, you would type in the name in your search box, and pull-down to wikipedia (assume it is in your search box). with diigo's search menu, you just select the name and right click and move to references (where wikipedia is the default), and you can choose any other search options. (of course if you use Diigo's content selection menu, you do not even have to right click. 

Also, on the bookmark input window, what are things you see to be unnecessary?

Sam, please give it another try and let me know how you feel about it. We are getting a lot of positive feedback on our designs and of course, it is the different perspectives like yours that really help us improve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Thanks for trying it and for the review. </p>
<p>One thing you perhaps missed about Diigo&#8217;s use of submenu is that you do not have to go into the submenu!  So in the screenshot above, if you just want to bookmark, then just click &#8220;diigo&#8221; since &#8220;bookmark&#8221; in the submenu is the default choice. But having the other items in the submenu allows you to do other things easily if you want to.</p>
<p>The same goes for search menu and submenus.  say if you see the name of some historical person and want to look it up at wikipedia. According to your current practice, you would type in the name in your search box, and pull-down to wikipedia (assume it is in your search box). with diigo&#8217;s search menu, you just select the name and right click and move to references (where wikipedia is the default), and you can choose any other search options. (of course if you use Diigo&#8217;s content selection menu, you do not even have to right click. </p>
<p>Also, on the bookmark input window, what are things you see to be unnecessary?</p>
<p>Sam, please give it another try and let me know how you feel about it. We are getting a lot of positive feedback on our designs and of course, it is the different perspectives like yours that really help us improve</p>
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