Diigo Is A Good Idea, But Not A Good Implementation
Diigo is del.icio.us meets Wikalong. That is bookmarking meets site comments. It is something that del.icio.us has the potential to do, but doesn’t do. And it is something that is (certainly if a critical user mass is reached) that would be extraordinarily useful. But what actually is it?
Let me explain by continuing this comparison with del.icio.us. Take this page it is the del.icio.us page for Google.com. It is full of comments about the site. Now everyone knows what Google is so the comments aren’t very useful. But maybe you are about to sign up for a service and want to check whether it is reputable, or maybe you’re buying a product and you want to check for other peoples reviews. So lets now take this page instead to see what people think of Diigo.com. So what is the difference between diigo and del.icio.us? They both have this comments thing for sites. Well two words are the difference.
Diigo is
. You don’t have to fish around by going to del.icio.us to see what people think of a site, it is written on the page in front of you. People can even specify particular words that they are interested in, or want to comment about. Perhaps they could highlight the $100 shipping costs on a products page in the small print. Or the clear flaw in a politician’s argument. The potential is pretty obvious. It makes the web experience interactive. Everyone sees the same pages — why shouldn’t you talk about them. It truly is therefore annotation. Not just bookmarking but also highlighting and adding “stickies”. It is like Gabbly’s live chat for every page, but comments are permanent.
I am sure you will agree this is quite a complicated idea, and since the vast majority of surfers still use browser based bookmarks it seems to me that broadscale adoption is a long way off. And that is a shame. Diigo will only be “worth” using if more people are using it. Luckily at the moment they let you post to somewhere else at the same time so that you can keep your del.icio.us up to date whilst you try out the new tools.
So diigo is a smart idea, a clever one even if (thinking Wikalong again) it is not new. The implementation of the idea is what determines the flopp factor for this service. And quite frankly I am not impressed. It comes as an extension for Firefox and a plugin I imagine for IE, or for the worst case scenario it is a bookmarklet for any other browser. I am using the extension and it is awkward. By default diigo gives itself far too much. A right click reveals a diigo command at the top. A single click gives another diigo menu. It also gives you an extra toolbar (which I hastily removed). The right click menu is silly too. It should just say “Bookmark…” but no it is a diigo subsection that you have to move across into. Messy.
The screenshot to the right gives you a good comparison between the way diigo and del.icio.us integrate themselves. Note that the “Search Web” thing is also diigo’s doing and it opens sub menu after sub menu all for absolutely no reason. Search is easy enough. I click my search box and type. It is more of a bother to highlight something and then navigate through that maze of engines to find some decent results. Why they include this is beyond me. Do one thing, don’t make a mess at the same time. The windows that pop up for you to fill in notes, and tags about the bookmark/highlight/sticky you are making are browser based. It is not a pop up. This is nice I suppose. But it too is cluttered with stuff I am not interested in. The amount of options available in the options panel of this extension gives some indication of how over complex this tool has been made. Yes it is a good idea, but good implementation is needed. And right now, with a website UI that also leaves much to be desired, diigo just doesn’t have it.
If you would like to give this service a whirl yourself, then be in touch and I will invite you in.
Maggie Tsai wrote:
Sam,
Thanks for trying it and for the review.
One thing you perhaps missed about Diigo’s use of submenu is that you do not have to go into the submenu! So in the screenshot above, if you just want to bookmark, then just click “diigo” since “bookmark” in the submenu is the default choice. But having the other items in the submenu allows you to do other things easily if you want to.
The same goes for search menu and submenus. say if you see the name of some historical person and want to look it up at wikipedia. According to your current practice, you would type in the name in your search box, and pull-down to wikipedia (assume it is in your search box). with diigo’s search menu, you just select the name and right click and move to references (where wikipedia is the default), and you can choose any other search options. (of course if you use Diigo’s content selection menu, you do not even have to right click.
Also, on the bookmark input window, what are things you see to be unnecessary?
Sam, please give it another try and let me know how you feel about it. We are getting a lot of positive feedback on our designs and of course, it is the different perspectives like yours that really help us improve
Posted on 26-Jun-06 at 2:51 pm | Permalink
Sam Davyson wrote:
Maggie,
[ I will write this here for the public eye, and send it you by email also so that you definately get it. ]
I admit I was not aware about that feature of the submenu. But I am not sure that it makes things better. The submenu is therefore entirely surplus. The default action could be configured in the options and then the button could just be a button nothing else (no submenu). Design I would say (as you may be able to tell from this blog) is all in simplicity. I don’t need a submenu, so why have I got one? Maybe you could drop the other options. I for one don’t need or see the point of them. Another point on this function you have included — it is not normal to be able to click menu items with arrows on them. I imagine many users would make the “mistake” that I made. It probably says in your help file, but no one reads help files, your product needs to be usuable through intuition.
As for the search thing, I will make my point clearer by giving you an example. At the moment Diigo’s extension does not give me the chance to pause/stop/start/shuffle the songs that are playing in iTunes/Windows Media Player. Why not? It is functionality that you may be able to offer with a right click (or of course if you use Diigo’s content selection menu, you wouldn’t even have to right click). Why isn’t this offered? Because there is no reason to offer it. It is a completely irrelvant. What I have playing on my computer is nothing to do with my bookmarks. The same applies here. If I wanted right click search functionality, don’t worry — I’d go out and get it. There are probably countless extensions that would fit the bill. But surprisingly I do not want this feature. I have a great search set up (I use YubNub so for a Wikipedia search like you suggest I reckon I could beat you every time by typing it in my box over you navigating through menu after menu). Is there a Diigo-lite version with JUST the bookmarking in, and no surplus stuff?
The design on your website I guess is something that is personal to me. But I don’t like the colours or the links. And I think the buttons are pretty ugly. It is common in Web 2.0 things to have non pressable buttons — that is buttons that are images are do not change on pressing. But anyway I am more concerned about the interface of the extension.
I have make a Flickr set with images and comments. You can see it here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davyson/sets/72157594178046426/
Posted on 26-Jun-06 at 3:30 pm | Permalink